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Hegesias Cyrene's avatar

People seem to be overlooking the fact that the so-called "bipartisan" senate intelligence report was in part produced by New Knowledge, a private company funded by Dem billionaire Reid Hoffman, who also funded the fake Hamilton 68 Russian bots dashboard and who himself was busted by the NYT and Wapo for running a Russian disinfo false flag on behalf of Alabama Dem senator Doug Jones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonder_(company)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/reid-hoffman-alabama-election-disinformation.html

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Sagebluesky's avatar

I would tend to agree with this review argumentation 👇

July 23, 2025

The Ratcliffe-led CIA in its review found that the “aspire” judgment was “plausible and sensible, but was an inference rather than fact sourced to multiple reporting streams,” noting that it also rested on an assessment of “the public behavior of senior Russian officials and state- controlled media, and on logic.” It said that the assessment authors had properly interpreted the sentence fragment.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/23/politics/gabbard-russia-documents

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Brennan talking about extensive training on distinguishing between facts, purported facts, inferences, etc…

00:07:02] John Brennan:I think I certainly learned about it too when I was going to high school and college. I think the intellectual curiosity will make you — it should make you question things and not just accept it on faith. And unfortunately, a lot of religious doctrine has faith and there's no evidence to support that. But in the CIA, there's extensive training programs that you have, whether or not you're an operations officer or an analyst. And they try to teach you many of the things that you had taught in law school, which is to distinguish between facts and purported facts and inferences and judgments and assessments and hunches and hearsay and all of that, because you really have to desegregate or all of the information that comes to you and then try to evaluate it in totality. So there's a rigorous training process that CIA officers go through again, whether or not you're out collecting intelligence from foreign spies or whether or not you were sitting at Langley and doing the analytic work of pieces that go to the president. 

https://www.jordanharbinger.com/john-brennan-an-undaunted-fight-against-americas-enemies/

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“Augment those different articles with additional tidbits” kind of makes me laugh (Brennan talking about briefing President Clinton on the PDB):

“And I would bring it down to the president and it will be the first time he would see it. And so I'd sit with him and augment those different articles with additional tidbits.”

https://www.jordanharbinger.com/john-brennan-an-undaunted-fight-against-americas-enemies/

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Sagebluesky's avatar

Kinda like ICA…lets augment 😩

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Augmenting makes me think the primary source was not as reliable. Why u need to augment u?

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The ICA didn’t seem to address significant counterarguments imo on the help Trump aspired judgement. It’s seems more to defend the why they made the decisions they did more than convince people on the what actually were the aspirations of a foe.

1/9/2017

“We have great confidence in our understanding, our knowledge, in our assessment of what took place,” he told Axelrod on the eve of the meeting with Trump.

The counterargument, Brennan said, is a US presence could have led to the deaths of hundreds of US military personnel and been exploited by ISIS as a rallying cry.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/09/politics/john-brennan-axe-files

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If you look at the fragment released in the HPSCI investigation, I don’t understand how the fragment reads around the explanatory words [candidate Trump]…it seems like more is missing.

I’m keyed in on “convincing victory” in the fragment

JANUARY 17, 2017

"What we see is the continuing sharp domestic political struggle although the presidential elections are over and they ended with a convincing victory of Mr. Trump," Putin said, according to Russia's TASS news agency.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/17/510239973/putin-accuses-obama-administration-of-trying-to-undermine-trumps-legitimacy

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“Convincing victory”

By David E. Sanger and Anton Troianovski

Jan. 27, 2025

On Monday, Mr. Trump’s inauguration day, he held a televised meeting of Russia’s Security Council — an event that normally happens on Fridays and largely behind closed doors. He said Mr. Trump “showed courage” in surviving attempts on his life and had won “a convincing victory.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/27/world/americas/trump-putin-ukraine.html

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Sagebluesky's avatar

I’m interested in the concern about double agent in the part you snipped out from the NYTimes

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And of course, I don’t know who is who as far as the source.

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Bestoink's avatar

This extracted source is known to DOJ. Need to find out which dead or imprisoned Russian subsource provided the second-hand fragment that corroborated Steele reporting. But he needs to be debriefed ASAP.

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